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Okay, for starters, this is not a discussion of my practices, that goes into metaphysical, not eastern religions. 

I suppose most if not all of you have heard me rattle on about void scry, or void this or void that, for those who have not, that is something I do. I've the sole title of non-traditional solitary eclectic pagan. In essence, I'm a free-thinker, and as such, so are my journeys, for the longest time I've kept things close to my chest, clung onto my practices due to being a solitary, however, that isn't necessarily in my benefit, nor others... and a dragon can lay on it's gold, but if there's a substantial cache, why not share the knowledge? 

Here are a series of posts to start to let others in on my views, if you know this for an established practice, know that the only way I know about these things are from experience and pathwalking. Also, in no way shape or form am I extracting these things from books specifically, though there may be books that I do not specifically remember that may have contributed, aka, The Satanic Bible by LaVey, The Tao Stones boxed set, and The Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashiden (the Kaufman translation), may also be a bit of the Wiccan Warrior in here too. I don't know, I know that these books I've read, as well as many more and they've sort of influenced me indirectly (Satanic Bible, more LaVey's views on psychology), most of my philosophies, though very much inspired by simple phrases, it goes like this. I am writing in a format that's my own, if there seem to be influences of works involved, please let me know, I've no idea how to research a pursuit I've been born on, I'll site references and keep within the guidelines for ensuring no plagiarism ensues. 

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What is void?

for starters, ask yourself. What is light? What is everything? What are somethings? What is absence? What are incorporeal thoughts? What is evil? What is Good? What is justice? What is Hate??? I'll quit giving myself arthritis and just do an ad-lib, you can put whatever you want in there, What is ____?

Answer the What is, and then you will come to the what not. Then the harder to answer question comes about. What is not?

To your recollection, is there anything that can answer that question?? I want you to think on it. As hard as you can, think about it, and don't give me an answer until you have thought about it to the point of coming up with one, and only one explanation, one answer, one thought... One focus... the mantra... 

I cannot account for what you may find there. However, I can say what I've found. What is not? Truly, aside from the definitions that may vary a bit in books, truly, what is not??? 

I personally have only found one not, one word, one answer. What is not? Nothing. a simple concept, a simple word. But let's look at it for a second. If you can assert the phrase What is ____? and place what you want in there, can it truly be not? Not has it's own place, imo, as such, it is a power itself by it's very non-existence, yet where lies the power? That is a pursuit that each soul must encounter, and so many, approaching that lesson, ignore it. Either due to their want to hold on to everything, or their want to please others or deny that there is nothing. 

So, that being said, what makes nothing "evil"? How can one even fathom attributing another "title" other than nothing? The Abyss? Don't somethings reside there? if that is the truth, and they acknowledge each other, how is that nothing? 

Truth is, it is very hard for humans to accept nothing, if it appears in the mind... does it not then have substance? However incorporeal, or "not real" it may be?

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How can the nothing be nothing if we can grasp it?

Can you truly "grasp" an experience? You can analyze it, sure, you can definitely learn several, if not infinite lessons from anything, but, can it truly be grasped? By grasp, I mean be one with the experience. i.e. I fell off a cliff and landed on a thin, small ledge, twice this occurred in half an hour that felt like a century, on a mountain I'd never known previously, foolhardy I was, death I stared in the face twice, both times I was saved... by a thin ledge. I was stranded on the side of this mountain, could not find a way, freaked out, a friend, (the only friend here) has non-belief, I layed in a nook, shaking, scared, frightened, terrified, I drained a better portion of his hiking flask of Yukon Jack to calm my nerves, smoked more than enough cigarettes. Here is where the unity happened. As Yin and Yang, I opened my heart internally, asked the powers that be, and even the mountain itself to open a way, my friend, though frightened as much as I was, kept it internal, with his own non-belief, he wore belief that he would find a way. At the same time that I found peace with the mountain, and requested the way be shone, was the same time he found the thinnest of crevices tall enough for the fingers and toes to grasp on to, to shimmy across a drop over 3000 feet... I am here to this day, and so is he. Yet, is this the lesson to be had here? The experience was powerful, transformative, and I've learned many things  from that experience. yet, how can I grasp it? I will always learn more from the experience, come to peace, understand, and even be enlivened by it. Boast about it, tell it, live it. But, how can I grasp a mountain? I did technically, I grasped rock as I descended, I grasped air, I grasped my arms, the flask etc. but, did I grasp the experience? Part certainly, yet, would it not be very hard for me to grasp it all? Would I not have to also be the rock, the sand, the air, the sun, the moon, the mountain itself to fully grasp the experience? that's a hell of a lot of points of views to accept, as they've been for seemingly eternally, as their lives are more powerful and longer lived than that one exploit, yet it is part of the experience, eternal almost, as their story tied with mine in those fleeting and very small moments. 

So, I ask, can an experience be grasped? Truly? In Totality? If you can truly and completely and sincerely answer yes to that simple question, I give you much appreciation and admiration, for you are a wiser person than I. 

So, if the above cannot be answered, then, if nothing be more an "experience" is it truly something? 

Can it be grasped? Truly? I leave this open ended, you can agree or disagree, my own conclusion is no. 

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What is the point of embracing or observing nothing?

My answer? Why not? I've noticed that there are peoples that embrace bits of everything stubbornly, things that hurt them, the provide the toxicity, thought, objects, relationships, living conditions, emotions, etc.

If you have no problem clinging onto undue pain, why is it such a bad thing to embrace the total nothingness? There is not toxicity in it, there is no pain, no evil, no malice, no unhealthy, no, well... anything really.

What's the point? Well, what in life really has a point save for the experience and the learning, the nice thing about accepting and embracing void, or nothing is that you get the opportunity to let go. 

I have talked to others who claim themselves on a taoist journey, and of course, though that be a path that is very much subject to someones perceptions and delves into futility in attempting to judge one path to another, if the pursuit of the quest is to better understand that which cannot be described (the hidden element Tao), then, if you look everywhere, through the All, then, logically (at least to me) one must eliminate all possible "locations" including nothing. 

The issue, I believe, when I've asked others if they've encountered the nothing or gotten to a state of void in their pursuits is one of reluctance. People like to cling. You cannot cling, onto anything, at all, your mind, your clothes, nigh even your soul really, it still, however is an experience that does happen and certainly "exists". Through the paradox of their actually being this "state" or "plane", one begins to get lost in the nothing, as concepts of reality and time, space, thoughts even start to unravel. 

I cannot tell you there really is a point to accepting and embracing the nothing or void, save for a couple crucial things gained from personal experience.

Under astral attack, or being fed on? I know not too many entities that can feed off of nothing... nor too many things that can actually find you in nothing. if you don't exist, or even a part of you cannot exist, how can something find you?

The other side of things is that by embracing and completing the state of nothing, allows you, once you come back to the everything, to realize just what it is that is important to you, those are the things you'll find you miss the most. That can help you find your addictions as much as it can help you provide a priority list of relationships etc. 

Attaining emptiness is sublime, is my own personal opinion. Supremely serene. It's a practice that is found amongst most cultures I'd warrant, if not in full, at least in part. The bible is full of examples of starvation, for example, the forty days and nights in the desert. At the end of that journey, through trials and tribulations, and with temptation being provided, true understanding of the self was attained, there are other visits to the desert and other places of sparsity for spiritual enlightenment, I just chose to take it to an extreme. One could also even look at the heart and the practice of emptying the heart of everything, so it be vacant and replenish itself with joy and hope, and the relationships that truly matter. So, to answer this question, really, after wasting all these words that may or may not make sense I leave another question that you may very well find much peace in asking yourself.

What something(s) is/are holding you back from even thinking of attempting of giving abandon to release and accepting nothing to be reborn with the something that matters? You've not truly lost anything by doing this simple exercise. 

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Hmmmmm, very interesting posts toaw. Some of your thoughts are similar to things I have also pondered. Others....well, the analytical side of me is very tempted to quickly respond to some parts of it.......but I am going to come back and read through it all again.

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Hmmmmm, very interesting posts toaw. Some of your thoughts are similar to things I have also pondered. Others....well, the analytical side of me is very tempted to quickly respond to some parts of it.......but I am going to come back and read through it all again.

Aye. There's more posts to come, I'm hitting oblivion again, so, more to come while I'm there.

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a most intriguing take on things
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More to come as the words channel themselves Esca. 
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I promise more to come and mean it, at this time though, my inner spark seems to be a bit dull. Though that should be a very good time to continue with my experiences and what not... not feeling much more than blah... hate feeling blah... eta: blah is a something that emulates nothing, and in its artificial place... blech arises, which is another blah sort of thing, and... sigh... my wit be fading... damn. 
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I know I promised before, but this time it's for real, I'm on the cusp of reawakening once more the mind that threatened to shatter and as I do this page will be updated, I believe I may also look into expanding this into a separate thread to describe more my practices and uses of void. 
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